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POLL: FUTURE MARKET OWNERS, FUTURE ADMINS. AN IMPORTANT POINT I DON’T KNOW WHY HAS NEVER BEEN ANSWERED.

Let me cut through the noise and say what no one else has the balls to say:

STOP F*ING WITH THE USA.**

You want to build the next big darknet empire? You want to own the throne after Alphabay, Empire, Dark0de, and the rest got eaten alive by alphabet soup agencies? Then listen up, because this is a war—and I’m tired of watching soldiers walk into landmines blindfolded.


America: The Graveyard of DNMs

You ever wonder why the average lifespan of a darknet market is shorter than a TikTok trend? It’s not because of lack of skill. Hell no. It’s because idiots keep thinking they can play chicken with the United States government. You think you’re slick hosting U.S.-facing listings? You think you can sneak a pill or a tab past Homeland Security, DEA, FBI, USPS inspectors, and God knows how many local narc squads?

Think again.

Ask Ross Ulbricht. Ask Gal Vallerius. Ask anyone who thought the “freedom” market in America was just another playground. You’ll find them buried under 200-year sentences, rotting in ADX Florence, or burned into legend because they dared to touch the red, white, and blue with dirty fingers.


Europe-Only: The Missed Opportunity That Could Have Changed the Game

Here’s the thing nobody wants to say: If you ran a market strictly inside Europe—and I mean no USA listings, no U.S. vendors, no Yankee pixels on the server logs—you’d still get rich, and you wouldn’t be sentenced to die in prison.

Europe’s legal system is soft by comparison. You get caught pushing codeine or benzos in Germany? You’ll get a few years, maybe probation. Get nabbed in the Netherlands? You’ll be sipping coffee and learning watercolor in a white-collar rehab prison. And the kicker? You’ll see daylight again. You might even make it out with a book deal.

Let me make this concrete:

  • The Dutch took down DUTCHMAST3R, a legendary vendor, but only after 8 years of surveillance. That man moved bulk across the continent and operated with class and consistency. That wouldn’t happen in America—you’d get raided before the second shipment left the door.

  • The French? They’re not tracking you unless you’re dealing arms or stepping on national security toes.

  • Spain? Italy? Portugal? They’re too busy chasing political scandals and economic collapse to care about an onion-routed weed dealer in the Basque region.


“But What About the Money?” – The Voice of Greed

Ah yes, the greedy little devil in every admin’s ear whispering, “But the Americans pay more… you’re leaving money on the table…”

Let me be clear. That money you’re chasing is radioactive.

The U.S. customer base is the obese kid at the candy store—sure, they’ll buy more than anyone, but they bring in heat like no other. Every overdose traced back to a U.S.-facing DNM listing lights up a federal task force like a Christmas tree. Fentanyl, pressed pills, counterfeit Adderall—all of it is top-tier investigation priority in the States.

You sell to Europe, you’re a vendor.

You sell to the U.S., you’re a national security threat.

There’s a difference, and it’s written in handcuffs and indictment papers.


“But Region Doesn’t Matter on Tor…” – The Naïve Lie

Let’s address another myth I keep hearing: “There’s no region on Tor, so even if you build an EU-only market, Americans will show up anyway.”

That’s like saying a “No Guns Allowed” sign can’t stop a school shooter. Yeah, if you don’t enforce the boundary, the wrong people will slip in. But here’s the truth:

You can implement geo-fencing logic, country-based wallet rules, language filters, VPN/exit-node behavior tracking, and even force regional proof-of-stake for vendors. Don’t tell me it can’t be done—you just don’t want to do it.

Admins just aren’t brave enough to build a market that turns away the U.S. dollar. They’ve got no spine, only spreadsheets.

But if someone had the balls to say,
“No USA. Period.”
You’d build something sustainable. Not a flash-in-the-pan honeypot for law enforcement to dissect.


EU-Only Markets: A Blueprint That Never Gets Built

Let’s imagine it:

  • Listings only for European countries

  • Vendors must verify with EU-based shipping proof or IP behavior

  • Market pages in German, French, Italian, Dutch

  • Default payment in Monero only

  • No English-speaking support team

  • No American-timezone drop windows

  • Shipping options built into Schengen borders

That’s a fortress, not a fairground.

You’d build a real underground economy, not a frat house for fent dealers trying to become the next Escobar.


The Psychological Game: Greed vs. Freedom

Some of you won’t listen. You’ll keep chasing the fat American paychecks. You’ll keep listing 2-day delivery to New York while pretending you’re anonymous. And eventually, you’ll get that knock at the door.

Or worse, you’ll never hear it coming.

But for the rest of you—those who get it—you’ll choose freedom. You’ll choose longevity over headlines. You’ll trade 10x growth for 10 years of peace.

Because only a fool burns the candle at both ends and calls it brilliance.


Real Talk: You Can Still Be a Millionaire… in Euros

Newsflash: You don’t need the U.S. to make millions.

You just need:

  • Quality vendors inside Europe

  • Consistent, trusted shipping across EU borders

  • Solid OPSEC (not some guy on ProtonMail)

  • A serious infrastructure team

  • And the will to say: “No Americans allowed.”

That last part? That’s the hard part. That’s the part that will keep you free.

But only if you mean it.


Final Thought: Who Will Be the First?

I’m throwing this gauntlet down because I’ve watched too many markets rise and fall like drunken emperors. One of you reading this has the mind, the team, the infrastructure, and the balls to make this happen.

But you have to abandon greed.

Build the fortress. Reinforce the gates. Keep the Americans out. Let the U.S. kill itself in its own overdose epidemic and trillion-dollar surveillance circus.

In Europe, you build empires.
In America, you build your own prison cell.

Choose wisely. The next throne is waiting. But only the clever ones will still be sitting when the ashes settle.

And if you’re not ready to build?
Get the f* off the battlefield.**

This game is for architects, not addicts. For visionaries, not victims.

Let the weak keep feeding the U.S. machine.
Let the bold build Europe’s digital black market utopia.

Your move.

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